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Old 08-20-2009, 04:50 PM
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Hill Harper, An actor that you probably would remember from movies such as He got games, Beloved, In Too Deep and tv show csi. He has written a book after seeing some alarming statistic that only 38% of Black children live in two-parent homes and that 64% of African-American women have never been married while 57% of white women have been married. He also compared how back in 1966, 84% of all African-American children were raised by two parents. He also mention that 80% of Asian-American and 70% of White kids were raised by both parents in 2006. Scary you would say? yes quite, but why? What are we doing wrong? He doesn't want us to blame that on the American attitude nor the typical saying "there is no good black men" or vice versa.

In this book he wants them to deal with our issues, mainly love. He isn't giving us the perfect recipe to love but more explaining what he has noticed like, women tend to talk about relationship between themselves which usually brings the misinformation (like oh your man SHOULD be bringing you to the movies etc etc)."Every man isn't looking for a chef in the ckithen, a lady in the street and a freak in the sheets.What a man expects from a woman is to feel wanted,included,supported and loved." He obviously had to included good sex but that wasn't ALL they are needed from us.

He also sent a message to the men, to "man up" to stop turning a blind eye on what the other guys do as well.He mention something that sparked my interest is the racist part in relationship and an author of THeRoot.com "What single Women Can Learn From Michelle". Where she basicallys aid that not many women would have even paid attention to Obama when he was in his 20's and he agreed that most women (like i've spoke to many people even co-workers) want someone equal or better.

But i believe us women should lower and block what some of our mothers righthave mention. You meet a broke brother? help him to make it up there. If he isn't stylish enough, you can help him becoming it. If he isn't sweet enough you can show him how to be sweet. If he doesn't have enough manners, you can raise him and so on. Just like a dish, you have to prepare it til it's like you would want. Same thing for men. Here's what he had to say about what most women would say after what I've said and what he said before :"You're not settling if you focus on a man's core traits. If you want kindness,character,patience,someone who will chase the kids around the park, then you're not stepping down. It's only settling if you honestly know you can' tbe happy with a man who isn't the breadwinner or who can't take you on expensive vacations." Which i love to call gold diggers.

About the "There is no good black women/men out there". He said that there is only Women are only chasing after 5% of the men, that too many are defining good on their bank account, the high price car, where he lives and how attractive he is. "If more women looked at a man's character and judged his worht based on his level of kidness or patience, They'd find a lot of great men."

Bottom line is in every relationship, potential one, friendship matter of fact EVERYTHING in life, to discuss with each other. The key is always communication. Girls lets your gards down, stop behaving the way you would want the men wants.


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Old 08-21-2009, 12:25 AM
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This is a bad trend that I hoe can be broken. Some of us grew up without a father figure to begin with, not to say that I agree with all that's happening with the brothers of today doing that to theirs seeds.

I grew up without my dad and it hurt a bit especially when everyone is talking about what they did with their dads, or how they gonna go fishing or to a ball game. What's even worst is when you have other brothers and sisters from different mothers but the same dad, in some cases the sibblings may be months weeks or at times days apart.

I sometimes wish that brothers would have more respect for themselves when they run around from girl to girl. They say that they love their mom and respect them but they treat the mother of their child with no respect at all. In the white community you don't hear half of the shit you hear in the black community, such as half brothers and sisters, AIDS and all those other viruses and disease.

I just hope we all realize before it's too late what we're doing to ourselves and culture
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Old 08-21-2009, 01:17 AM
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but in response to this:
You meet a broke brother? help him to make it up there. If he isn't stylish enough, you can help him becoming it. If he isn't sweet enough you can show him how to be sweet. If he doesn't have enough manners, you can raise him and so on.
kinda sounds like a no no... alot of times when a marriage fails the women often say: "i thought i could change him"... not saying it CANT happen, but you cant expect to change someones personality

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Old 08-21-2009, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Mz K View Post
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About the "There is no good black women/men out there". He said that there is only Women are only chasing after 5% of the men, that too many are defining good on their bank account, the high price car, where he lives and how attractive he is. "If more women looked at a man's character and judged his worht based on his level of kidness or patience, They'd find a lot of great men."

Bottom line is in every relationship, potential one, friendship matter of fact EVERYTHING in life, to discuss with each other. The key is always communication. Girls lets your gards down, stop behaving the way you would want the men wants.
i think thats where it is.Women have created an idle man i.e the wealthy *not necessarily hard working* high riding man.The days when people got married and built their lives from scratch together through hardwork are dying.Women just want someone who alreay has it and so that there is no real sweat on their part.I dont think thats right yes as women you may want security but then as a man knowing that that's primarily got you interested *the money*,nothing lasting will be built .Cause I know that when its gone you will to so I would treat you the way you would deserve

And also the men need to own up to their responsibilty your child is your child.You cant just seed all over and forget that you are creating life.

As black people we really need to look at ourselves and see the mess we are creating but abandoning family values.We should start taking action at our homes and stop blaming everyone for our fucked up society

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Old 08-21-2009, 08:52 AM
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but in response to this:


kinda sounds like a no no... alot of times when a marriage fails the women often say: "i thought i could change him"... not saying it CANT happen, but you cant expect to change someones personality
It's not about CHANGING but HELPING....you test your luck some don't know HOW to make it needs a little help others wants to change but haven't find the person to be their cane see what i mean? i'm not talking about those who he's cute i'll change him so he can suit me...

It works both ways as well...

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Old 08-21-2009, 08:53 AM
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i think thats where it is.Women have created an idle man i.e the wealthy *not necessarily hard working* high riding man.The days when people got married and built their lives from scratch together through hardwork are dying.Women just want someone who alreay has it and so that there is no real sweat on their part.I dont think thats right yes as women you may want security but then as a man knowing that that's primarily got you interested *the money*,nothing lasting will be built .Cause I know that when its gone you will to so I would treat you the way you would deserve

And also the men need to own up to their responsibilty your child is your child.You cant just seed all over and forget that you are creating life.

As black people we really need to look at ourselves and see the mess we are creating but abandoning family values.We should start taking action at our homes and stop blaming everyone for our fucked up society
And i blame that somewhat to the fact that because women wants it all there not paying attention to the signs that he could be a dirt bag and settle....for the man with more money...the car etc...

I believe we don't becareful with that and the kids end up paying for our mistakes.

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And i blame that somewhat to the fact that because women wants it all there not paying attention to the signs that he could be a dirt bag and settle....for the man with more money...the car etc...

I believe we don't becareful with that and the kids end up paying for our mistakes.
Thats the sad part and the kids grow up thinking that having a lots of kids with different men/women is how it should be and the cycle goes on & on

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Old 08-21-2009, 09:25 AM
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exactly what i think. I'm hoping some more people will read this article and reflect on their lives...and not just spend their time in the sex thread talk

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